Narrated Wa'il ibn Hujr:
"When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Apostle of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.
He (the Prophet) said to the woman: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. And about the man who had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
He also said: He has repented to such an extent that if the people of Medina had repented similarly, it would have been accepted from them. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4366)
This is beautiful and great. Look at what The Messenger (Peace Be Upon Him Forever) has shown. He forces the people to respect women. Women are to nolonger be raped.
Now we must unfortunatly look at the christian and jewish belief about rape. There is very little in their book about this and I am sad that I had to search for it but here it is and it is shocking:
Deuteronomy 22In christianity and judiasm if a man rapes a virgin girl then he is not punished as the wisdom of The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) commands, instead the girl is forced to be the wife of the man that raped her! I am sorry that I had to show what these vile man made religions teach but we must be vigilant. There are muslim men who believe what the crusaders believe. They believe that a man who rapes can just marry the girl. NO! A man who rapes MUST be stoned to death.
22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to deathhhthe girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
In Islam we women are respected and treated correctly. Allah with Islam has corrected the falsehoods of christianity and judiasm. christianity and judiasm have no respect for women and we see this in their actions everyday. Inshalla Islam will rule over them and stop their hate of women.
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With the utmost respect, what you say seems not put into practice. The man is killed? Why then so many, oh so many reports that it is the woman who is punished. And why do you juxtapose that which was done thousands of years ago, to justify what is done today. And let me explain, the purpose of the old testament being attached to the new, is to explain the new, to give it its beginnings and explanation of the coming of a messiah. Christians follow christs words, not the OT. They explain his significance by way of the visionaries who foretold of him.
Sigh. I have seen way too much evidence of barbarity displayed towards and acted upon women in islamic countries to truly believe that as a woman, I would benefit from an islamic state.
Islam women should be put in a cage full of Jews and let them screw every orifice in the Islam bitches body. Then the Jews should tear her tits from her body and eat them. Then the Islamic woman should be strapped to the front of a US jetliner and made to fly until she is dead for what the bastards did on Sept 11th. Then lets see her spout off her toxic vile words!!!
the third commentator is an abhorrence. Sister, recognise me... with the utmost respect, this is never the dialogue I would engage with you. But question I shall, and willingly receive your reply.
You sent a message to my blog on Homeliving Helper but I could not post it because of the inflammatory tone of it. Freedom in Christ means that men and women are equal. The New Testament is the law now spiritually binding, and it says that women are to be cherished and treated as the delicate vessel. The Old Testament was the law to bring us to Christ. Once he died, he left His last will and testament, which we call the New Testament. It is the will for Christians today. You need to learn about rightly dividing the word of God, as the Bible commands.
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/video/stoning_video_100kbps.wmv
Men being stoned to death in Iran.
Sick.
Um, Lady Lydia, I'm not one to usually agree with jihadis but you're wrong on this one.
Jesus said that he didn't come to ABOLISH the LAW but to FULFILL it.
Now either Jesus is basically talking out of both sides of his mouth or you girls must obey men, must submit, and the old laws on rape still apply.
I guess the only way for women to accept Christianity is for them to falsely alter it to agree with their feminist concept of equality between men and women.
The reason so many men are leaving Christianity is because of women like you promoting it as a woman's religion.
As for sister, I think she will do more to hurt her faith then help it. In America we are begining to hate anything that is female oriented. If Islam both attacks us and has in it women's equality with men then it is bound to be completly wiped out.
The problem with the world is that women have toungs.
By fulfilling it means that he obeyed it while he lived. When he diedm, HIS last will and covenant went into effect. In this last will, there is neither male nor female spiritually because they are equally accountable for their own sins.You need to do a study on that word "fulfill" and also figure out why there was a new covenant. The book of Galations says "for if that first covenant had been without fault, there would have been no place for the second." It goes on to explain why new law replaced the old: basically because it is a law of love from the heart, rather than the strict rules and letter of the law. The old testament is not spiritually binding today. The new testament stresses love between the man and the woman. Jesus replaced the old law with his new law of love.
Lady Lydia if that is so then Christianity deserves the death it is dying for it is a woman's religion, not a man's.
Women always corrupt religion. Women destroy everything good men make.
So how long have you lived in the states Sister? How many rape cases in court have you seen the man pay 50 pcs. of silver, marry her, and it's "all good". your post is ridiculous. women are treated FAR better in western society than in ANY islamic country. We are not perfect in the West, but we don't claim to be. And before you start quoting the Bible maybe you should take a gander at your Koran. Take a look how women are to be treated there. Like it is encouraged for a man to beat his wife down for disobedience. Or it takes two women witnesses to equal one man as a witness. And didn't your "Great Prophet" consumate his marriage with Aeisha when she was a ripe old age of 9 years old, when he was over 50!!!!! Yep, great role model there. Puuuuuleeeeze!!
CJ
"Great Prophet" consumate his marriage with Aeisha when she was a ripe old age of 9 years old, when he was over 50!!!!!
"Because if muhammed was 15 it would have been more O.K."
I like that you are trying to help people understand your religion but you clearly don't understand Christianity. How do expect people to take you seriously when you insult the religion of others?
Sister- the dealings of Christianity and Judaism in this blog are quite inaccurately dealt with.
In Deuteronomy 22, the woman was obviously just as much to blame as a man. They both slept with each other on their own volition, as the passage would suggest. The same is the case in 23 and 24.
In Deuteronomy 25, 26, and 27, this law is the same as the Islamic one. What is your point? We have the same system- only the man should die.
Nowadays a man raping a girl is COMPLETELY unacceptable in Christianity. The man will go to jail for ages for doing this to a woman now. This should be the same with every religion, even though, sadly, it is not. This passage is in the bible, but I urge you to ask ANY true priest, pastor, bishop, et cetera. NO ONE would condone that behavior. As the first commenter said, this was the way it was done thousands of years ago. Our bible is not current. The old testament has been the same for thousands of years, the same time when slavery was allowed.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims. We all have deep respect for our women, we all pray to the same God.
Why must you make it seem otherwise? These are times when we should unite, not times when we should squabble over false arguments.
The peace of God (Allah, Adonai, whatever one wishes to call him, the God that unites us all) be upon you. -Alethia.
Stupid women trying to say that Duet dosen't condone rape. Hey bitches: read the text, IT DOES. Read pretty much any translation.
Alethia you're lying out of your teeth and decieving. In the Bible rape of maidens is allowed. It doesn't matter what the women following christianity of today does as it is anti-biblical.
Sister is right. She might be a mother fucking jihadist shitmonkey but she's not lying.
Fuck, you wonder why men hate christianity today.
Cuntress women have ruined it.
That doesn't change the FACT that the BIBLE CONDONES RAPE.
Read Duet over Alethia piece of shit.
Someone should stone Alethia infront of Jesus lol.
you are one brainwashed follower of the child raping false prophet Muhammad,who by the way is in hell sucking the pigshit off Allah's dick.
First of all u all need 2 look at all the laws of the old Testiment not only were they gods laws but the laws of men also for we shall obey the laws of men also in these laws they were added to the old testiments laws of the state and bible were of rape but the bible is intricatly written and when christ came he said he isnt here 2 change it your right but when the laws of man changed so did some of the bible as the laws of man are no longer present when jeasus made his final words he altered the laws of man and the laws of the world that were in the bible was changed also ur lookin at the recorded old laws of man in the bible and not what jeasus made them he didnt come 2 change the old testiment but 2 forfill it he came 2 over ride the laws of man that were in the bible with his laws of euqality when god created adam and eve he created her as the mate of adam his second half in this powers are split they arnt a whole wile the man continues 2 have the power of what happens out side of the home the woman was given power over the home in now adays the laws of man still reflect this as in if a man decides 2 move and his wife dont go with him he is no longer obligated 2 suport her she is equal in deciding she dont want 2 go but it does come with consequences
u fucking whore go rape a statue of muhammed u cunt
There is a flawed understanding of the text of the bible. I will clarify the law and the reasons.
Law: The man must marry the girl only if she wants. Either the victimized girl or her father has the choice not to accept this man as a husband, however he has no such right b/c he violated her. Similarly, he cannot divorce her unless she wants.
Reason: Raped women (and non-virgins) carried a stigma and would probably never get married otherwise. Therefore, if the woman wants this guy, he must accept her and cant divorce her.
Sources: See Exodus 22:15-16 about enticing a virgin, where the girl's choice is clearly defined, but the man has no choice. It was unnecessary to define this by forced rape. See Mishna Ketubot Chapter 3 for a full discussion of this matter.
PS. Beside the fifty silver coins the man must pay also for damages, hurt, and shame both to the girl and her family. Read the above Mishna for full details.
The Mishna is the Jewish interpretation of the Torah. Just like Protestants and Catholics have their interpretations.
If you love the Law there is no need to interpret it away. If you hate the Law because it is good to men (and you hate men, most people hate men) then you need interpretations.
The Jew of comment number 20 hates men. Go away anti-man Jew. Go worship women with this islam bitch.
Peace Be Upon Him? (Prophet)...
It just sickens me you can speak of peace and say punishments such as stoning fit the crime...
and its beautiful...
Believe me i have the utmost respect for women, as i do for every human. I do not put women up on a pedestal to worship as godesses however, they are equal in my opinion.
But to stone anyone for rape or any brutal murder.. even stoning another is just wrong. You should not stoop down to the level of the criminal.
If you believe in Allah's teaching so much why dont you grant the criminal a more civilized departure from this life and let Allah judge him ?
Stoning is not the answer, neither is ANYTHING in extremes, let it be war or peace.
I SHALL NOT KILL IS A COMMANDMENT FOR ALL AND THIS MEANS THE GOVT TOO. IF THE GOVT IS DOING WHAT THE CRIMINAL IS DOING, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?????? THE ANSWER IS NOTHING, THEY ARE BOTH GUILTY. WHAT EVER SIN A PERSON DOES WILL PAY FOR IT. IF THEY ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY HE/SHE HAS TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT NOT STONED OR TORTURED. GOD GAVE LIFE AND ONLY HE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE IT AWAY. NO MAN OR STATE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT!!!!!! GOT IT???
YOU BETTER
I SHALL NOT KILL THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR FACE HELL
HOW COME THOUGH YOUR RELIGION IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS RELIGIOUS LEADERS THAT CAN COME UP WITH A LAW LIKE THAT? AT LEAST IN OUR RELIGION CHRISTIANITY WE GO TO CHURCH TOGETHER, MEN AND WOMEN PRAY TOGETHER, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN DIFFERENT PEWS. ALSO OUR CHURCH IS FAIR, PRIESTS CAN MARRY AND THEN GET ORDAINED AS PRIESTS.
ONLY IN THE CATHOLIC BRANCH, THEY JUST ALLOWED PRIESTS TO GET MARRIED BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR LEADERS EMBARASSED THEIR CHURCH.
GENERALLY SPEAKING THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION DOESN'T GIVE ANY MAN THE RIGHT TO DO BAD THINGS TO WOMEN. WHAT MEN DO IS THEIR SIN, BUT NEVER IN HISTORY DID THE CHURCH IN THOSE DAYS EVER GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. EVERYTHING IN LIFE WE PAY OR GET REWARDED, BUT NOT BY HORRIFIC TORTURES. I PRAY FOR ANY MUSLIM WOMAN WHO HAS TO COMMIT SUICIDE NOT TO CONTINUE TO LIVE UNDER PIG HEADED MEN!!!!!!!!!!
IF THE WOMAN WAS A BITCH THAT WAS HER PROBLEM, SHE WOULD PAY FOR HER MISTAKES, BUT SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LAW TO HAVE HER STONED!!!!!!!!! WE NEVER HAD A LAW THAT MAKES IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO JESUS SAID CAST THE FIRST STONE IF YOU HAVE NO SIN. NO MAN I REPEAT NO MAN OR WOMAN IS WITHOUT SIN? SO WHAT GIVES YOUR MEN THE RIGHT TO DO SUCH NASTY SLOW TORTUROUS DEATHS. ALSO JESUS BLESSED THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN NOT WOMEN
YOU MUST ACCEPT JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD SO YOUR ACCEPTED. IF YOU DON'T, THEN GOD CAN'T ACCEPT YOU. REMEMBER THAT.
WE BELIEVE IN JESUS TO GOD AS ONE BUT YOU DON'T
SO THEN SINCE YOU DON'T , YOU SAY JESUS WILL JUDGE, YES WE SAY THAT TOO BUT WE HAVE HIM WHOLE TO GOD NOT A PROPHET, YOU CONTRADICT ALLAH AS LOWER BECAUSE ONLY GOD JUDGES THE WORLD NOT A PROPHET.
ALSO A NOTE ABOUT MOHAMMED MOHAMMED ALSO SUFFERED FROM SEIZURES SO HE COULD HAVE SAID THINGS THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN HE FELL TO SEIZURES AND PEOPLE JUST TOOK HIS WORD FOR IT. MEN WERE ALWAYS CHAUVINISTS PIGS, BUT NEVER WAS THERE A LAW TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO MAKE IT A RELIGIOUS LAW.
THERE IS NO RELIGION IN THIS WORLD OUT OF SATAN WORSHIPPING AND ISLAM TO MAKE A LAW TO KILL OR TORTURE YOUR WIFE OR LOVED ONE.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ACCEPT REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FORGIVENESS IS THE ONLY CHOICE OR DON'T EXPECT TO BE FORGIVEN. YOU HAVE TO SUFFER. ALSO I SHALL NOT KILL IS A COMMANDMENT ALL SHOULD ABIDE TO NOT TO ONE'S INTEREST. THE DEATH PENALTY IN THIS COUNTRY TOO IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL THAT INCLUDES THE STATE NOT JUST THE CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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